but when you talk about medicare, it's a totally different story. that's being driven by our healthcare costs. we spend more than twice as much per person as the average for other wealthy countries. we have nothing to show for it in terms of outcomes. we have to fix our health care system. so talking about "we're going to take this from seniors" is totally wrongheaded. now we can go back to our trade deal and say, "okay, let's get lower-cost drugs. let's get lower-cost doctors." there are things we can do to fix health care. i've been on panels with a lot of these people that go, "oh, but dean, fixing health care's hard." i thought you were the tough guys. >> there's a piece of this that's even uglier, which is that the statistics that everyone relies on, you know, all the people that you quoted, come from the congressional budget office. they're the more skeptical economists who have looked at them, have actually found pretty serious problems with their forecast, that even though they are, quote, nonpartisan in terms of not being affiliated with ei